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After you receive you`re State Firearm Safety Certification the first thing you should know is that it will be a waste of your time if you go to the police station thinking that you can just walk in and fill out the gun permit application, 99% of police stations will send you away and tell you to make an appointment. So save your time by following these tips and good advice. It is not really an ‘Interview’ in the sense you might think, what they want is for you to fill out an application, they take your picture,  fingerprints, safety certification, and your $100…….

*Save anything/everything you give to the police by making copies for your records, ANYTHING!* Duplication is key!

If you want to check the status of your LTC application call 617-660-4722.

1.    Call the police station first, ask for the person in charge of licensing, get his/her name, extension #, and email, if he has no email get the police department email. The email will be real handy when it is time to renew your license 6 years later, because two months before your birthday you should contact the police by email to let them know your license will be expiring  and that you would like to set up an appointment to fill out an application to renew it. SAVE the email as proof you contacted the police and started the process. If your birthday comes and you have not yet filled out the application because the police have not brought you in for an appointment, by law they will have to honor your ‘expired’ license, it will be valid and in force until you get the new license, you will be issued a receipt, email them again with attached copy of the original email.

Note: If you are a Plymouth resident you will need to email Marsha at Bruillard@plymouthpolice.com  follow up with a call to her at 508-830-4218, ext. 222.

OH NO!!   If you forget to start the process to renew, and your birthday passes by before you think about it, then you realize it and run to the station very concerned that your license has expired, the police can tell you that since you allowed it to expire you will need to turn in your guns. They can also fine you $500 for allowing it to expire, that fine is on the books though I have not heard of anyone being fined. If you now have no license you can not legally take your guns to the station, you will need someone else to go with you that does have a license. A friend or relative can hold your guns for you but will need to write a note to the police that has this information on it : Name, gun license #, address, phone#, and the note saying he will take responsibility for your guns while you renew your license, by law the police will/should accept this.  Some police chiefs may tell you to take the firearm safety course for another certificate first, as a ‘hoop’ to put you through, this is not in law.

The moral to this story should be not to forget to start the process. Even though the state is supposed to send you a notice that your license is about to expire three months before it expires, don’t hold your breath for that notice. I have been renewing my license since 1970 and have NEVER recieved a notice, some of my friends have and others have not, so it is a hit or miss proposition. Note: If you decide that you no longer want a license, before it expires you would need to be rid of  the gun(s) in your name by selling or giving them away and ultilizing the E-FA-10  form(s) online at the Ma. State Police, see GS #36

2.  Take note of the date of your application appointment, go 40 days out and note that date on your calendar also, this is the ‘window’ they have to deny or approve your LTC permit.  If you are denied you will receive a letter, (by law) from the police stating why,(this can be appealed, see #13, #20 Gun Sense).  After 40 days if you have not been denied, you`re not going to be, every town has experienced longer than the normal ‘turn around’ time legally prescribed by the state, (the state has/is breaking it’s own law)  for these licenses, now you need to just be patient. You will now be given a receipt when you reapply on time, this will keep your expired license in force  until the State issues you your new license, no matter how long that takes……

3. Next, as you look at the front of the application you will see license choices, if you are 21 years or older check off ClassA’ Large Capacity, if your under age 21 choose Firearms Identification Card (FID). As you read you will find a question that asks for your reason for the license, put three words here, for LTC, Any Lawful Purpose’. If for some bizarre reason, (known only to them) the police in your town do not like giving a license for lawful reasons,,,, use this as your second choice: For Personal Protection’, it is only a silly matter of semantics as far as I can see. For FID, TARGET and HUNTING se GS #26.  If you are required to bring letters of recommendation please read G.S. #33. If you are required to write a letter as to what your ‘reason‘ or ‘need’ is for wanting a license please read G.S. #19.  If they try to insist that they are going to give you a license with restriction(s) that you do not want, politely refuse it, tell them you would like a letter from them stating why you are being denied the license you applied for. If you know you should not be denied as stated in 4 below, stand your ground, don’t be needlessly bullied. Read G.S. #13.

4. There are three set reasons to be denied, If you have been a Felon, if you have been convicted of Substance Abuse, if you have been incarcerated in a Mental Facility against your will, (by court order). There is a fourth reason also, Dishonesty by leaving out something that’s on your legal record.  If the police want to deny based on a non statutory reason they now need to petition the court to gain permission to do so, as of 8-13-2014.  

Gun Sense  #34 CORI REPORT, Excerpt:  There is a range of questions about being convicted for certain things. The application is not looking for parking tickets/moving violations. It is absolutely imperative that if you have been in front of a judge at some point in your life for some other reason, even if ultimately nothing  came of it, you need to mention it, it is already part of your record and they want you to repeat what they already know about you. If something was ‘dismissed’ make sure you emphasize that it was dismissed, or, ‘continued without a finding’, or, ‘expired’. If you leave something out it is deemed a ‘lie by omission’, ( dishonesty) and grounds for denial, take this advice seriously!!

  5.   There is not much room on the application to write down what you may need to say about something that once happened to you. So at home write it on a sheet of paper to the best of your recollection, make a copy of it for your gun file, ( save copies of anything you submit) because you will need this information every six years. When/if you come to a question that pertains to you write ‘see attached paperwork’. If you want a copy of your state CORI record,(that you could also submit) go to #34 G.S. and follow the prompts.

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6. When you renew your license in six years you will need to submit a signed affidavit stating, (‘That no guns were lost or stolen within the last 6 years’). If that were to happen, you would need to report it as soon as you became aware of it,  and then it can not be used against you for a license renewal, by law as of 8-13-2014

If you want to check the status of your LTC application call 617-660-4722, FRB in Chelsea

For the Ma. Firearm Transaction List; https://mircs.chs.state.ma.us/fa10/action/home?app_context=home&app_action=presentTrans choose the option you need.

 

Recently someone who had taken my class had followed my advice about how to handle a town that only wanted to give a restricted license to the peasents, the town he lives in is Wareham, you may want to read the following letter he sent me, with his permission, I put it on my website. :

LETTER FROM WAREHAM, this also applies to WEYMOUTH as they both treat citizens this way;

Comment: Mark, I have been meaning to contact you and thank you for your help
but I wanted to wait until I had good news….yesterday I picked up my class A
license at the Wareham PD; a full five months after my interview, and almost
seven months after I applied.

The interview went well and in fact….went down
just as you suggested it would. I was told that they would “probably start me
off with just an FID…”. I politely said, “no…not interested; if you want to
reject my application do so in writing and I will appeal.”

I was then told that
“We’re winning all the appeals…”. I replied, “well…you won’t win this one. I
am a picture of stability. I’ve been in the same job for forty years, the same
address for 30 years, I pay all my taxes & bills, I owe nobody anything,
I’ve never been in trouble or arrested, and I’m not going to be the only one in
this town without a gun. If I don’t qualify…then nobody here does and you’ll
have to defend virtually every permit you have given out to justify excluding
me”

The officer then said “well we didn’t give you a license to drive without a
permit….why would we give you a permit to carry a handgun when you have no
experience?” I said “well, I don’t have a right to drive, but I do have a
constitutional right to have a weapon….and since you brought it up, I’ve had a
driver’s license for 43 years, driven over one million miles, and not had an
accident.”

At the end I said; Look…I don’t own any property that I can’t just
replace. I don’t own anything that’s worth hurting anyone or getting in trouble
over…but I do have a wife and two daughters in a neighborhood that is becoming
increasingly dangerous, and the police alone cannot guarantee their safety. The officers
response….”perfect”.

So again….thanks a lot for your help Mark, particularly with
preparing me for that interview. Tom M
Thomas,
Wareham Ma. 9-15-2013

NOTE: Some towns will act as if, because you have never had a gun license before, or because of your age, that they instead want to give you a restricted license like an FID instead of the LTC you are legally eligible for. Here is a note you can and should put onto your application if you live in a town such as this. ( I have met the criteria as set down by the law, age or experience notwithstanding). The police enforce existing law, not ‘invent’ new laws……….

Synonyms
1. Notwithstanding, despite, in spite of imply that something is true even though there are obstacles or opposing conditions. The three expressions may be used practically interchangeably. Notwithstanding suggests, however, a hindrance of some kind: Notwithstanding the long delay, I shall still go. Despite indicates that there is an active opposition: Despite procrastination and disorganization, they finished the project. In spite of implies meeting strong opposing forces or circumstances that must be taken into account: She succeeded in spite of many discouragements.

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120 Responses to “Gun Sense #39, LTC Application/’Interview’ Process, Steps/Tips in Ma.”

  • CJ says:

    The above is not even remotely true I waited 10 months just to get mine denied. Then I appealed the decision and lost that too. One of there articles states if they haven’t denied you within 40 days they aren’t going to and that’s not true. The law is they must approve or deny you within 40 days but good luck fighting that after 40 days

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  • Mark Shean says:

    No, It is true, there must be more to this story than you’re letting on.

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  • chris says:

    I wanted to say that it took me 8 days from my interview until I got my LTC approved. I went on the 27th of November and it was issued on December 5th. I got it in the mail a few days later. Not to bad. Real quick.

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  • Mark Shean says:

    That’s amazing, what town?

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  • chris says:

    West Springfield

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  • Mark Shean says:

    Its strange, I suppose all the towns could do the same quick turnaround if they wanted, but would rather screw with good people instead……..

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  • Jean says:

    Hey mark…I’ve been waiting for about 6 months in a response now! I called the police station last week and they told me it’s still on it’s first stage I don’t understand because my application was on hold for a week because the chief wanted me to bring in a letter for employment because I put down future employment but when I was told it was on hold I personaly went to the station told the clerk that my situation changes that I want her to change the future employment to all lawful purposes so she did! Then I received a call a month after that from the same clerk stating that the chief viewed my application and they he needs an employment letter I told the clerk that I came in on this specific date and told you that I wanted her to change the Future employment to all lawful proposed and she said oh yes that’s right ok I’ll send it up but now they are giving me the run around what should I do?

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  • Mark Shean says:

    Call the Firearms Support Services in Chelsea Ma, 617-660-4780 or 4600
    tell them what’s going on.

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  • I relish, lead to I found exactly what I was taking a look for.
    You have ended my four day lengthy hunt! God Bless you man. Have a great day.
    Bye

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  • Jean says:

    Hey mark yes I spoke to someone from Chelsea ma! Didn’t give me alot of info but that Springfield is behind and takes their time and there is no cut off date for a denial that they can deny you whenever they want!

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  • Sal says:

    The law doesn’t require you to be employed to own a gun. God these MA a_holes are out of control.

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  • Mark Shean says:

    You are correct on both counts.

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  • Jean says:

    Hey mark! It’s been almost 8 months since I put in my ltc application I have been in and out the police station requesting information but they always give me the run aroun! I even asked to speak with the chief but they always tell me he’s out in the field and he will give me a call when he is available. What else should I do?

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  • Mark Shean says:

    Call The Firearms Record Bureau in Chelsea Ma. and ask them whats going on with your license application.

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  • Jean says:

    Hey mark yes I did give them a call last week and explained to them what’s going on all that was said is to go back down to the police station and keep requesting any feedback from the police station on the application and the clerk that works at the station is very ride and disrespectful every time I go down there she gives me attitude.

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  • Mark Shean says:

    They give attitude because they have forgotten who pays them………

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  • Jean says:

    Hey mark after 7 months of waiting I got denied once again this time for suitability!I know I can appeal it but I’m not trying get a lawyer is there a specific website in were they show me how to create an appeal form!?

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  • Mark Shean says:

    Read Gun Sense #13

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  • JEAN says:

    Yes I have read it!!!Is it bad to try to appeal it on my own or should I hire a lawyer?

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  • Mark Shean says:

    In your case, hire a lawyer.

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